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Post by Gladiator Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:00 am

Does he excist?
I personally think he does not.
When people talk to God, it's prayer.
When god talks to people, it's schizophrenia.
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Post by Redneck Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:02 am

Nope there's no god,im an atheist
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Post by Gladiator Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:04 am

Aww, I wanna go diss people who believe there is a God =(
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:07 am

Iam christian...

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Post by Gladiator Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:42 am

So ZewiQ, I don't want to offend you or you're beliefs with this, you do understand that?
Do you believe that the world is created in six days?
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:45 am

Yeah i do, and iam used with many ppl asking ^__^,
Nice thing you've respect others religions.
You can disscus about other religions here just don't start to flame and start a religion fight, respect ppl religions that is their choice what they wanna belive in, peace out, going to sleep lol!

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Post by Gladiator Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:48 am

Ofcourse, it's a hot issue.
But how can you ignore (yes, ignore) the evidence about the evolution-theorie?
You can also see in the soil that the layers are older when you reach deeper, the animals change too.
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Post by Master Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:53 am

Religion is complicated issue that we learned from our ancesters.

if you were born in some place that everyone there was... lets say.. jewish, if your family was too, you would be.

at least until you grow up, like now, teens have their own ideas.


I belive that there is something, im a christian, open-minded
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Post by ITSAME Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:55 am

ye im believing in God 2
thats not cuz im muslim, i respect every religions

ofc there are enough which say we dont came from monkeys, i believe darwins theorie 2. Believing in god is nothing bad until u tolerate all others.


All trust in something: If u put some guys which say they are atheist in a sinking ship there is no way out and they now that they die they will pray to god 2

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Post by Gladiator Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:59 am

But, do you believe that people were created by God?
And itsame: Have you read the Koran?
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Post by ITSAME Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:00 am

yeah i read it but its long time ago and i dont understood everything in this time
but someday if i have enough time i will do again

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Post by Guest Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:36 pm

I am orthodox Christian ... Btw Gladiator Don't take the Bible literally.
I sometime dont know what i should think about God if he is there of course. Why he allows to live murders etc , why young babies die ?

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Post by Guest Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:12 pm

sony wrote:I am orthodox Christian ... Btw Gladiator Don't take the Bible literally.
I sometime dont know what i should think about God if he is there of course. Why he allows to live murders etc , why young babies die ?
God don't force humans to anything, God created human to have a free will, if we wanna live like this its our choise and he will not force us to something we don't want.

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Post by Stormhawk Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:27 pm

ZewiQ wrote:
sony wrote:I am orthodox Christian ... Btw Gladiator Don't take the Bible literally.
I sometime dont know what i should think about God if he is there of course. Why he allows to live murders etc , why young babies die ?
God don't force humans to anything, God created human to have a free will, if we wanna live like this its our choise and he will not force us to something we don't want.

very nice words Zewiq


but i'm not christian im not something else. I don't know if i believe in God. maybe he excist maybe he doesn't maybe he did excist we will never know if it was a mythology or a story. you maybe find out when ure dead
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Post by Redneck Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:30 pm

I think all religions is stupid,but thats just me!
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Post by Gladiator Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:49 pm

ZewiQ, do you think it's the human choice to live in poverty (Afrika)?
If there was a God, why won't he help people or atleast stop the wars between religions?
If there was a God, why would he let people stay there whole life being Monk? Hoping to get into heaven?
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Post by Redneck Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:52 pm

And why does he create diseases that you die painfully off ?
What about WTC?
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Post by Stormhawk Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:56 pm

maybe he need to sacrifice some things for greater things
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:06 pm

Redneck, God don't creat diseases like the WTC, or poverty in Afrika, its us humans. There is a God and a Devil, the Devil want's us to suffer the devil once was an angel in heaven named "Lucifer" but he got greedy wanted the power of God, so another angel fighted Lucifer and Lucifers followers and Lucifer was beaten and was sended to earth, where he makes us Humans suffer in pain, the devil is following us waiting for tiny holes where he can sneak and whisper in our ear to do something terrible and devastating. Iam sorry not so good to make things clear ;P, tought its my own religion. And its harder for me to makes things clear with english some stuffs maybe will get interpreted in the wrong way lol!

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Post by Redneck Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:13 pm

God creates the humans right? Why does he make evil people?
And now when earth is soon gone,why doesnt he make it to a better place instead so we can live longer?
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:16 pm

Because it stand in the bible that earth will burn and be destroyed and God will come and pick those who belive in him home.
God didn't make evil humans, but when the devil whisper in some humans ear, God can't make anything about it because he created us with free will.
If someone decides to listen to the devil he will become a evil human, and since God maked us with free will he won't force you to not be evil.
Only other good ppl can turn that evil human to a good human.

Just another question related or unrealated to what stands above, you belive in angels ?

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Post by Redneck Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:20 pm

I don't believe in anything supernatural.
I don't believe in god because he hasnt really done anything for humans,if he did,i would believe in him,nothing supernatural has ever happened.
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Post by Gladiator Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:12 pm

Red, how can you say that he didn't do anything for us?
HE CREATED US Rolling Eyes
Surprised ZEWIQ, can you explain this:
Why do Adam and Eve have bellybuttons?
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Post by Redneck Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:12 pm

He created us so we can live in a world full of pain and misery? Thanks GOD!
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Post by Gladiator Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:15 pm

Do you even listen to ZewiQ, Red?
He created people to have a own will, Zew, if I were right?
Earth is a punishment for all human right? Because Adam and Eve ate an apple (ye, ye, not just an apple) Razz
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Post by Stormhawk Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:16 pm

and God dindt gave us all that bad things u should blame Pandora. she opend the Pandora box
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Post by Redneck Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:22 pm

Gladiator wrote:Do you even listen to ZewiQ, Red?
He created people to have a own will, Zew, if I were right?
Earth is a punishment for all human right? Because Adam and Eve ate an apple (ye, ye, not just an apple) Razz
Maybe,but that doesnt mean he could make earth to a better place,if he's so powerful,then why doesnt he do something ?
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Post by Gladiator Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:29 pm

Read my post again Red. Sigh!
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:35 pm

Correct Gladi, and it was the devil who tricked Eva to eat from the apple and then Eva tricked Adam. The devil had the form of a snake.

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Post by Gladiator Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:36 pm

And ZewiQ, why do Adam and Eve have bellybuttons?
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Post by Stormhawk Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:37 pm

lol good point gladi lol!
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:40 pm

God created us rights ?, He makes so all humans was supposed to have a bellybutton from their birth.
So if Adam and Eva woulden't have it then they would have been some weird looking humans.
Otherwise how could someone know if they did have bellybuttons or not, when they r drawed its from how humans looks now. So they maybe just got bellybuttons because we belive they did, but they acctualy didn't ;S

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Post by Gladiator Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:26 am

ZewiQ wrote:God created us rights ?, He makes so all humans was supposed to have a bellybutton from their birth.
So if Adam and Eva woulden't have it then they would have been some weird looking humans.
Otherwise how could someone know if they did have bellybuttons or not, when they r drawed its from how humans looks now. So they maybe just got bellybuttons because we belive they did, but they acctualy didn't ;S

How were Adam and Eve born? Adam was made from clay (great craftsman) and Eve from a rib of Adam, right?
How can the first humans look weird? They are the standard of humans.
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Post by ITSAME Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:06 am

God gave us our awareness and inteligent to recognize who created us
if there would be no "bad" in this world we would getting unbalanced and the population growth would destroy all humans.

Its not Gods duty to controle us, we controll us. He just give us a body and a world to live in.

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Post by Gladiator Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:38 am

Itsame, am I right if muslim people can't drink? You do, right? Why?
And ZewiQ, I don't believe in anything that there isn't proof for.
(Just a lol question, my skin turn green when it's completly dark, proof otherwise Wink )
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Post by ITSAME Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:58 pm

who say im 100% muslim? i said i believe in god. Ye i call myself muslim and if i would live in my homeland i think i wouldnt drink, there is it much easier.
I know that its not good that i drink but i do in moderation, i dont overdo it so i cant remember what i did done or cant controle myself. Beeing Drunk is forbidden for us because u cant controle urself if u drink too much, i dont drink too much, so im still living like how i should as a muslim.

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Post by Dutch Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:33 pm

Due to religion there were and are many fights and discusions, most of these 'problems' (in my opinion) are the couse of misunderstanding. Many people are to busy with their own religion without listening to those with an otherone. People should listen more and ask about things they do not understand before they come up with their opinion about the 'otherside'. Respect, listening and understanding are more important then accusing ppl for having a 'false' religion or opinion about it.

These discusions are very intresting because there are so many opinions and argumentations about this subject.
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Post by Gladiator Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:57 pm

Ya Itsame,
I know it's very hard to not drink,
When I was in Egypt (very nice people there!!!) the nights were full of normal, not drunk, men.
Try that in Holland or Germany =P
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Post by ITSAME Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:10 pm

lol i wouldnt say its hard to dont drink, its just make many things more fun
and saying always no to something dont make ur life more happy, there should be some integration in holland/german drunkness Razz

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Post by Guest Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:22 pm

Gladiator wrote:
ZewiQ wrote:God created us rights ?, He makes so all humans was supposed to have a bellybutton from their birth.
So if Adam and Eva woulden't have it then they would have been some weird looking humans.
Otherwise how could someone know if they did have bellybuttons or not, when they r drawed its from how humans looks now. So they maybe just got bellybuttons because we belive they did, but they acctualy didn't ;S

How were Adam and Eve born? Adam was made from clay (great craftsman) and Eve from a rib of Adam, right?
How can the first humans look weird? They are the standard of humans.

See now did someone missunderstand my lousy english lol!

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Post by Gladiator Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:34 pm

Do you think God lives in 4D?
You have 2D (mario land)
3D, our world
4D, our world + time?
5D, our world + time + "overzicht" all seeing eye?
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Post by Iron_Heart Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:39 pm

if there is no god, who created this worldan galaxy? was it a chance like darwin said? you can't explain all these things with chance.
I do not want to interfere anybody's religious but yess god allows to die childs, baybies, civilians because good people and bad people must be leave in the world. we should think(with our minds as god gave us) and be in good side.
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Post by ITSAME Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:42 pm

zewiq and u missunderstood me now, i dont said i have to be drunk to have fun. There are times where i drink nothing for about a half year. I meant I just do it "sometimes" if i want it.

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Post by Gladiator Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:44 pm

Iron_Heart wrote:if there is no god, who created this worldan galaxy? was it a chance like darwin said? you can't explain all these things with chance.
I do not want to interfere anybody's religious but yess god allows to die childs, baybies, civilians because good people and bad people must be leave in the world. we should think(with our minds as god gave us) and be in good side.

Iron, that's just a stupid argument.
If God did create this world.
Who created God?
Did he come from thin ai... NO there isn't any air.
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Post by Guest Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:47 pm

Itsame i knowd what you meand, i did just say that totaly unrealated to anyting else Razz.

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Post by Redneck Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:37 pm

Iron_Heart wrote:if there is no god, who created this worldan galaxy? was it a chance like darwin said? you can't explain all these things with chance.
I do not want to interfere anybody's religious but yess god allows to die childs, baybies, civilians because good people and bad people must be leave in the world. we should think(with our minds as god gave us) and be in good side.
Everything has been explained by science,that planets were created by big bang and earth was created by a strange gas.
I believe more in science then God.
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Post by Gladiator Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:45 pm

Red, where did the bigbang came from? From nowhere?
Where did the first monucules came, the first quarks, protones, neutrones.
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Post by Redneck Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:06 pm

How the hell should i know lol,im not into science that much >.<
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Post by ITSAME Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:18 pm

i combine science and religion. i trust them twice! This is how i live my religion. One of it dont expect the other.

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Post by Iron_Heart Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:41 pm

Gladiator wrote:
Iron_Heart wrote:if there is no god, who created this worldan galaxy? was it a chance like darwin said? you can't explain all these things with chance.
I do not want to interfere anybody's religious but yess god allows to die childs, baybies, civilians because good people and bad people must be leave in the world. we should think(with our minds as god gave us) and be in good side.

Iron, that's just a stupid argument.
If God did create this world.
Who created God?
Did he come from thin ai... NO there isn't any air.

I think we can't discuss where god come from. but in koran it says he never born or be borned. it is enough too blieve god to see nature and it's balance


ReDnEcK wrote:
Iron_Heart wrote:if there is no god, who created this worldan galaxy? was it a chance like darwin said? you can't explain all these things with chance.
I do not want to interfere anybody's religious but yess god allows to die childs, baybies, civilians because good people and bad people must be leave in the world. we should think(with our minds as god gave us) and be in good side.
Everything has been explained by science,that planets were created by big bang and earth was created by a strange gas.
I believe more in science then God.

then explain where adam came from? isn't science god's sign? of course it explane eveything but god is upfront. scientists only find what he created
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