Collateral Murder - Iraq

As u know im always informing about the bad shit what happens on earth, i found today a video on Wikileaks (http://wikileaks.org/) where u can see how the military making cruel things with civilians in iraq (in afghanistan ofc 2). I watched the video and couldnt detain myself, to post it here. The CIA is trying to hunt the publisher now to avoid publishing of this video. (if u understand german read here http://www.n-tv.de/technik/CIA-jagt-Wikileaks-article791938.html&#13 | u can try to search it in ur language, just write something like "CIA hunting WIKILEAKS" in google).

Before u read more, watch this video, plz take it to ur heart, dont stop watching before u saw the scene with the van.


http://www.collateralmurder.com/&#13 (EDIT: this site got removed some mins ago, dunno why but i try to imagine the rest)

watch here the video on wikileaks site:

http://wikileaks.org/


Damn sometimes i really hope all this US soldiers die, people should learn to dont be sad about their death. But its not the soldiers fault, its political fault and all our blindness against our "DEMOCRACY"

they laugh while they drive over dead bodies with the tank and are shooting on people which try to crawl away

I saw that video in the news this morning,i can't believe that they're so stupid to fire at civilians because their cameras looked like weapons,they should have looked more into it,stupid American soldiers.

sad is we never spot how much civilians die this way everyday

"Collateral damage", and then imagine how many more there will be......

Those people in the van are stupid!
Picking up the camera's (soldiers were thinking they were weapons) with CHILDREN! How can they do it? The helicopter could not not shoot just because they bring children?
If they have that much camera's that might be reconised like a RPG 30 minutes after a firefight, that isn't smart.

I'm just sayin...

wtf u writing man i dont understood ur sentence.

That are irakies in their own country, they can do what they want! The only help of the US-soldiers in this country would be if they run away

Gladiator wrote:Those people in the van are stupid!
Picking up the camera's (soldiers were thinking they were weapons) with CHILDREN! How can they do it? The helicopter could not not shoot just because they bring children?
If they have that much camera's that might be reconised like a RPG 30 minutes after a firefight, that isn't smart.

I'm just sayin...

That's a very stupid thing to say,a country shouldnt be afraid to have cameras without having the risk to get shot,you can't seriously try to justify this.

RednecK wrote:

Gladiator wrote:Those people in the van are stupid!
Picking up the camera's (soldiers were thinking they were weapons) with CHILDREN! How can they do it? The helicopter could not not shoot just because they bring children?
If they have that much camera's that might be reconised like a RPG 30 minutes after a firefight, that isn't smart.

I'm just sayin...

That's a very stupid thing to say,a country shouldnt be afraid to have cameras without having the risk to get shot,you can't seriously try to justify this.

[/quote]That's a very stupid thing to say,a country shouldnt be afraid
to have cameras without having the risk to get shot,you can't seriously
try to justify this.[/quote]

Yes, they SHOULDN'T! But it is, sad truth, it's a war out there?

It's all a bit 'to American' if you know what i mean....

Gladiator wrote:

Yes, they SHOULDN'T! But it is, sad truth, it's a war out there?

its OUR FAULT that there is war, europe dont did anything against this war so its all our fault that those people getting killed there. thats the sad truth. europe always trying to be asskisser of USA thats why EU never gonna work here.

Gladiator wrote:

RednecK wrote:

Gladiator wrote:Those people in the van are stupid!
Picking up the camera's (soldiers were thinking they were weapons) with CHILDREN! How can they do it? The helicopter could not not shoot just because they bring children?
If they have that much camera's that might be reconised like a RPG 30 minutes after a firefight, that isn't smart.

I'm just sayin...

That's a very stupid thing to say,a country shouldnt be afraid to have cameras without having the risk to get shot,you can't seriously try to justify this.

That's a very stupid thing to say,a country shouldnt be afraid
to have cameras without having the risk to get shot,you can't seriously
try to justify this.[/quote]

Yes, they SHOULDN'T! But it is, sad truth, it's a war out there?[/quote]That doesnt make it acceptable at all.

Look the publishers are hunted by obama now, u still think obama is change? obama is greatest fag and marrionette like bush

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,699321,00.html
(its german, but i dont found any good news in english media)



A part of it translated from under-headline:
(US-Präsident Barack Obama: Viel härter als Bush):
US-President Barack Obama is harder then Bush

were getting out of arguments.... not so much serious discussion


Still wonder how that thing was captured.



and for your information ITSAME, USA helped in the World War II, they were against hitler, so has almost all countries in europe.
so, you know, its important to keep good relations with alies.

are u joking? that is 60 years ago, the only thing they do today is to knock down the democracy step by step. 1.4 million civilians in iraq, thousands in afghanistan (theres no number reliable data for afghanistan). The only hope before its going down with europe is to unsnap from american dream and building a force against it. otherwise we aint be better then them. Nothing changed after 2nd world war, the strong countries are rebuild, the poor countries are more exploited. in the last 100 years there was nearly no war without the USA. the bad things what happened to the jews are happening to the palestine's now and we pay for it. instead of stopping it we sent them atomic submarines which are travelling infront of iran's sea.

i recommend u the book "Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler" maybe then u will rethink ur hero in 2nd worldwar

look what i found today, its looks like obama is even worst then bush

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7144445.ece

"The dramatic expansion in the use of special forces, which in their
global
span go far beyond the covert missions authorised by George W. Bush,
reflects how aggressively the President is pursuing al-Qaeda behind his
public rhetoric of global engagement and diplomacy."


.............


"The order also allowed for US special forces to enter Iran to gather
intelligence for a possible future military strike if tensions over its
alleged nuclear weapons programme escalate dramatically."


Thats our nobel peace laureate, he payed more for military in his first year then bush in his years.

you have gone off topic completely Itsame.. make a new thread, or what not

its still about collateral murders

No this is about Obama, not the exact collateral murder this thread was originally made for.

i wrote it here cuz i dont wanna open a new thread where im writing something and get no replies. so i thought i put it here

shit happens

but you would get replies

the prob is that most of u appreciate on media (news) and think they are independent so nearly everyone believe them 100%. If media would talk the truth, nearly everyone would be paranoid and against their western society. Sometimes i feel like i talk against a wall if i have to repeat everything. Not like for example in university where everyone has his own opinion and know how the modern world works. I see the difference here.

About behavior:

http://www.prisonexp.org/

Watch also the german remake: Das Experiment (can be found on youtube, see link)

In general: 80% of the people will follow 'their leader' blind and without questioning.