Immigration

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Ok, I think that in this topic we should mainly talk about the immigration of people from "muslim" country's. Because talking about the immigration of people from Italy should be a little bit silly because they have about the same culture as the Netherlands or Sweden or Germany etc.

I never said that is just one offender. But its always the
civilians
which suffer. The "elite" never gets a small hit. Thats no
problem of
the people, its problem of the policy and the
zionism.

You're right.

You are right, it is
no terrorism, it is genocide. Everyone convicted
over Hitler that
he attacked Poland, France and other countries without
reason, but
whats the USA doing today? Same strategy, same shit.

You
don't have a right to compare II War in which 72 milions people died,
people where gasing etc. to Iraq or Afghanistan War.

If u
say Britian - they are. They are best friend of USA and doing
everything
they want. For example (i dont wanna make the country bad
now, just
example) germany, france and other countries sell tons of


weapons
everyday to those countries. The receiver is in this case
immaterial,
they just want their money

Every coutry wants gain more
money.

Ofc normal mercenary which kill civilians, make
false flag impacts,
training "radical muslims" etc.

I
never heard about this.

By the way, it's our fault, it's humanity
fault.
If everyone cared these wars would end.
But people are
blind as you said itsame, they vote on politicans who support the war or
just lie and contiue war and we allow them this because of our
ignoracne.

I keep soldier side, they aren't guilty of this, they
just do what goverment orders, i same gonna join army next year, and i
know how it looks because i have many friedns in army - you're going to
fight in Iraq or Afghanistan or they kick you out but officialy to war
go soldiers who want but it's lie.

You don't
have a right to compare II War in which 72 milions people died, people
where gasing etc. to Iraq or Afghanistan War.

im taking the right to compare it cuz it will be the cause for the III War. And noone learned anything after the 2nd world war. Before 2nd world war the world was watching, today the world is watching. But now the "good guys" are the offenders and the reason of global terrorism.


Tell me a difference between Hitler and today, only the sides are interchanged and the aggressors are others. I give u the example, brown marked is what happened in 2nd world war and the text before is today:

Iraq has hundreds of jails where murdering and torture happening everyday (Concentration camps), 1,4 million civilians [+ the guerrilas] die LEGAL in this war and still everyday (Holocaust on Jews), we see everyday in media the propaganda of the USA (Goebbels), attacking countries just for fun (Poland 1939), inside jobs (Reichtags fire), the worlds just watching (Till 1940). Looks like they learned much from Hitler

I keep soldier side, they aren't
guilty of this, they
just do what goverment orders, i same gonna
join army next year, and i know how it looks because i have many
friedns in army - you're going to fight in Iraq or Afghanistan or
they kick you out but officialy to war
go soldiers who want but it's
lie.

They are guilty. You still have the chance to say no. If you lose ur job cuz u dont wanna kill civilians, i would say fuck you to the government. Thats why i support egalitarianism and i rather like to see soldiers dieing then civilians.

Every coutry wants gain more money.

Hitler wanted it, Taliban wanted it, Stalin wanted it. But if they want it, its abusing or murdering. If the modern western society want it, its for the "best reason".

You can't compare the Iraq war to WW2, so a total of 1,5 - 2 million people died the last ten years in this war, but 72 million people died during World War 2 in 6 years and Hitler almost had whole europe in his hands.

The iraq war is nothing when compared to WW2.

It's still a war....

ITSAME wrote:

You don't
have a right to compare II War in which 72 milions people died, people
where gasing etc. to Iraq or Afghanistan War.

im taking the right to compare it cuz it will be the cause for the III War. And noone learned anything after the 2nd world war. Before 2nd world war the world was watching, today the world is watching. But now the "good guys" are the offenders and the reason of global terrorism.


Tell me a difference between Hitler and today, only the sides are interchanged and the aggressors are others. I give u the example, brown marked is what happened in 2nd world war and the text before is today:

Iraq has hundreds of jails where murdering and torture happening everyday (Concentration camps), 1,4 million civilians [+ the guerrilas] die LEGAL in this war and still everyday (Holocaust on Jews), we see everyday in media the propaganda of the USA (Goebbels), attacking countries just for fun (Poland 1939), inside jobs (Reichtags fire), the worlds just watching (Till 1940). Looks like they learned much from Hitler

I keep soldier side, they aren't
guilty of this, they
just do what goverment orders, i same gonna
join army next year, and i know how it looks because i have many
friedns in army - you're going to fight in Iraq or Afghanistan or
they kick you out but officialy to war
go soldiers who want but it's
lie.

They are guilty. You still have the chance to say no. If you lose ur job cuz u dont wanna kill civilians, i would say fuck you to the government. Thats why i support egalitarianism and i rather like to see soldiers dieing then civilians.

Every coutry wants gain more money.

Hitler wanted it, Taliban wanted it, Stalin wanted it. But if they want it, its abusing or murdering. If the modern western society want it, its for the "best reason".

Okay ITSAME now you are just starting to be stupid and over exaggerated. You are making USA look soo much more worse then they are. They are shitcunts, but DAMN you actually compare them to fucking Hitler, that is just a disgrace.. They aren't kids. They don't attack anyone for ''fun'' They do what they do, for their own safety, and money, because they are so fucking paranoid, that they are afraid the world will bomb them in any seconds. And I don't blame them! Nearly every country has secret nuclear weapons, and can destroy the world in the blink of an eye. but really claiming that they attack other countries for fun is just.. retarded, honestly.

Dutch wrote:It's still a war....

Yes it is, but the Iraq war is not anything like WW2.

guys if u would know about the relations between Hitler and the USA u would understand me. Read books

History is written by the victor. U guys still dont get it. USA is worse then Hitler. I dont attack the US citizen, i attack the system.

Books:

"Wall Street and the rise of Hitler" ( http://www.reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/ )

"Conjuring Hitler" (
http://www.scribd.com/doc/23320620/Wer-Hitler-machtig-machte )


And there are more books like that. Its just an "reluctantly" truth.

ITSAME wrote:
History is written by the victor.

TITSAME... you play to much MW2

omg thats quote isnt invented by mw2 lol
but it was appropriate
btw i would like to hear ur opinion dutch

my history teacher used that quote often

ITSAME wrote:guys if u would know about the relations between Hitler and the USA u would understand me. Read books

History is written by the victor. U guys still dont get it. USA is worse then Hitler. I dont attack the US citizen, i attack the system.

Books:

"Wall Street and the rise of Hitler" ( http://www.reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/ )

"Conjuring Hitler" (
http://www.scribd.com/doc/23320620/Wer-Hitler-machtig-machte )


And there are more books like that. Its just an "reluctantly" truth.

Itsame books are only paper. You can't rely on books.. And Im not sure if you actually understood what I really meant..

i crossed ur post cuz i read or hear this everyday. The 2nd worldwar is over and the similarities to today are given. I dont let myself mute like others. Its always like that if someone wanna tell the truth someone comming to shut his mouth. Cuz its comfier to be silence while other suffer. Its the same with Africa, everyone know that its 100% our fault. In TV they show how Europe is trying to help them but after the cameras are out they comming to exploit and drive away.


2nd world war: 16 mio civilians

- Vietnam war: 3000000 death people (2 million of them was civilians)
- Corea war: 3000000 civilians death and 940000 soldiers
- Irak/Kuba sanctions: More then 1000000 deaht children
- Irak in the 80s: 130000 irak civilians, 200000 iran civilians
- Massacre Panama: Poor Village people, 20000 deahts
- Civil wars sponsored by USA: hundred thousands of civilians in chile, uruguay, bolivia, argentinia,....
- Irak after 2003: 14000000 civilians death

Now get the total of those CIVILIANS death and then we get again the number of deaths like in 2nd world war. Most of those people died in PEACEFULL time. Forget the 2nd world war and realize whats HAPPENING NOW. stop living with closed eyes, all those deaths was made by USA.

You can't rely on books

So you believe in ur TV? The books have sources, TV has sponsor.

Excuse me did I say that I did? No I didn't, but you clearly did say that you rely on books, from what you have written here. And tell me just now.. What sources? Sources are as reliable as books.

Ouh my truth hurts, even me.

I believe in books? Maybe its a part of. But i dont believe media.
I believe in our world and god. And i believe that Obama & Co can lick my ass. Iam glad for the New York trip in April.

ITSAME wrote:i crossed ur post cuz i read or hear this everyday. The 2nd worldwar is over and the similarities to today are given. I dont let myself mute like others. Its always like that if someone wanna tell the truth someone comming to shut his mouth. Cuz its comfier to be silence while other suffer. Its the same with Africa, everyone know that its 100% our fault. In TV they show how Europe is trying to help them but after the cameras are out they comming to exploit and drive away.


2nd world war: 16 mio civilians

- Vietnam war: 3000000 death people (2 million of them was civilians)
- Corea war: 3000000 civilians death and 940000 soldiers
- Irak/Kuba sanctions: More then 1000000 deaht children
- Irak in the 80s: 130000 irak civilians, 200000 iran civilians
- Massacre Panama: Poor Village people, 20000 deahts
- Civil wars sponsored by USA: hundred thousands of civilians in chile, uruguay, bolivia, argentinia,....
- Irak after 2003: 14000000 civilians death

Now get the total of those CIVILIANS death and then we get again the number of deaths like in 2nd world war. Most of those people died in PEACEFULL time. Forget the 2nd world war and realize whats HAPPENING NOW. stop living with closed eyes, all those deaths was made by USA.

You can't rely on books

So you believe in ur TV? The books have sources, TV has sponsor.

Looks like your trying to blame everything on the US when its obviously not only their fault and they're not responsible for all civilian deaths, not even close, come back to me when you have proof that over 6 million people died painful deaths for their religion (Except WW2 of course)

In war, there's civilian deaths, but they died because they were in a war, in WW2 people died because of their religion, race and skin color, they were put in concentration camps, experiments were held by the nazis on jews, people were doomed to die from their birth because of how they were born.

Im not scared that there's a war in Iraq, but i would be scared shitless if there was a third world war.

redneck better stay out of this topic, u understand nothing of it. Proofs are everywhere. 2nd world war wasnt about religion, it was segregation and fission between races (aryan race)

oh yeah, forget the concentration camps today where murdering and torture is legal on civilians.









guys clear-headed u agree with me only u try to show it a "softer way". Protecting murders makes u a supporter of it. Many guys, even in Europe, think like me. One day the heat will come back.

''guys clear-headed u agree with me only u try to show it a "softer way". Protecting murders makes u a supporter of it. Many guys, even in Europe, think like me. One day the heat will come back.''

Okay, seriously but now you are just sounding like you are in some kind of cult.. Besides, wouldn't you be pretty pissed if your whole family would get killed in a massive explosion, from a plane? I would. I would join the army immediately. Tell me what you would do. Wouldn't you feel the anger inside you, just flaming. And before you write, please don't start with ''Well it was USA who bombed themselves! bla bla bla'' Try and actually look at their side of the view, okay? Thank you

Thanks for giving me munition Okay now think about this:
Soldiers comming in your country, killing your brother, killing your mother and other relations. What would YOU do? Wouldnt you join the Guerrilas in the country to send the soldiers back to hell?

For your example:
Why i should attack Afghanistan? The terrorists was from saudi-arabia! all those wrong informations came with this day. This is nothing about revenge. If the soldiers arent inteligent enough to see this its their own fault and they can go to hell. Thanks for attention.

Okay, seriously but now you are just sounding like you are in some kind
of cult

Thanks for calling me crazy or something only cuz i campaign for poor people. I would die for this that the truth came out, but i guess u guys wouldnt do cuz u think first of urself before at others.

Well, you did sound crazy.. Like it was some decease having another opinion then your own.. And BTW you didn't answer my question, you just asked me another question, which is not an answer.

ITSAME wrote:redneck better stay out of this topic, u understand nothing of it. Proofs are everywhere. 2nd world war wasnt about religion, it was segregation and fission between races (aryan race)

oh yeah, forget the concentration camps today where murdering and torture is legal on civilians.


guys clear-headed u agree with me only u try to show it a "softer way". Protecting murders makes u a supporter of it. Many guys, even in Europe, think like me. One day the heat will come back.

It was not only about the aryan race, and i know that and thats something you should know to.

So? In WW2 murdering and torturing civilians was legal to and a much worse case then it is today.

And when was i protecting murderers? I never did that, you clearly can't understand what im saying.

And many guys think the 'heat' wont come back, you can't prove them wrong either.

ITSAME wrote:Thanks for giving me munition Okay now think about this:
Soldiers comming in your country, killing your brother, killing your mother and other relations. What would YOU do? Wouldnt you join the Guerrilas in the country to send the soldiers back to hell?

For your example:
Why i should attack Afghanistan? The terrorists was from saudi-arabia! all those wrong informations came with this day. This is nothing about revenge. If the soldiers arent inteligent enough to see this its their own fault and they can go to hell. Thanks for attention.

Yeah i probably would, but i would not kill civilians and blow myself up because of it.

ITSAME wrote:

Okay, seriously but now you are just sounding like you are in some kind
of cult

Thanks for calling me crazy or something only cuz i campaign for poor people. I would die for this that the truth came out, but i guess u guys wouldnt do cuz u think first of urself before at others.

Ah geez thank you, i did not know i did this before you said it, thank you so much, you know me so much better then myself.

We're entitled to have our own opinions arent we? We're not selfish because we don't agree with you, that sounds really douchebaggy.

huhu

i live in spain here a lot of people from china, ecuador, peru, venezuela, mexico, marruecos, argelia, argentina, alemania, inglaterra, all countrys... i think is good but must to be regulated.. with papers..

i think is not a problem if they come for work and get a new life but a lot of them come for steal , sell drugs or something and here the italian government cant do nothing to them so they get free in 1 day and they continue this shit . So i hope all these mfkers get fucked away from my country forever.

They can do, but they don't want to, because the government sucks balls.

but the governments in Europe also pays money for Spain to hold the Africans away from entering Europe in the Street of Gibraltar

yo itsama mf

Obama... I missed you

Sverigedemokraternas (Swedendemocrats) video for the election 2010.

lol immigration failed on me
that the people in europe dont make enough children is the problem and the parties only advertise pensioners thats why their countries going down. they just dont realize it in germany for examples are places where are the pensioners voters are more then 50% and the parties want to get those 50% voters so they only try to make changers for the old, not for the young.

i hope my country turkey never gets in this feigning EU =)